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Author Topic: MERLIN S4 EPISODE 2: THE DARKEST HOUR PART 2  (Read 908 times)
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« on: October 09, 2011, 04:13:59 AM »

Written By: Julian Jones
Directed by: Alice Troughton

We begin this episode where we left off - the knights (well, primarily Lancelot) are tending to a half dead Merlin , after his (literal) run -in with the dorocha. Leon and Arthur stand a little further away, both watching on somberly. Arthur states that they have to get Merlin back to Gaius - and Leon argues that that they cannot abandon the quest, that hundreds would die - not just Merlin- if they did. Lancelot states that he will take Merlin back to Camelot, cutting through the valley of the Fallen Kings to save time. Arthur looks conflicted, but agrees. As Arthur and Gwaine secure Merlin to his horse, Arthur quietly tells Merlin that this is his fault, and that he is sorry. Merlin, barely conscious, begs Arthur to let him go with Arthur, to which Arthur resolutely tells him that he is dying, and makes it clear that he is not sacrificing Merlin’s life. As Merlin and Lancelot ride off, Arthur watches them sadly.

As Merlin and Lancelot ride into the valley of the Fallen Kings, Arthur and he rest of his knights ride to the Isle of the Blessed. They begin some of their journey on foot, to give the horses a bit of a rest, and Gwaine gets distracted by the buzzing of bees, deducing that; bees = food. Leon, in the meantime, tries to reassure Arthur that letting Merlin go with Lancelot was the right thing to do. He tells Arthur (as the bees take out their revenge on Gwaine in the background) that if anyone can get Merlin back to Camelot safely, it’s Lancelot.

Lancelot and Merlin stop at a stream for a rest - Lancelot lays Merlin down next to him as he moves to gather some water in his hands. As Lancelot watches, Merlin’s hand falls gently into the water, and begins to lightly shine. All of a sudden, Lancelot hears a female voice calling his name. A drop of water raises from the stream, and a face of a female appears. She tells Lancelot that they mean him no harm, and that they are Vilia, spirits of the brooks and streams. She informs him that the tearing of the veil has disrupted the spirit world - and that both good and bad spirits roam free, but that can not continue for long. When Lancelot tries to reassure the spirit that Arthur is riding to repair the veil, she informs him that Arthur will need both Lancelot and Merlin’s help. She tells Lancelot that Merlin (actually calling him by name) is stronger than he gives him credit for. That the young warlock has a great future, and a destiny that has been written before the dawn of time. She informs him that even now, her sisters are healing Merlin.

With the knights, it’s return of the Wildren and gaia berries, as it is determined that the quickest way to the Isle of the Blessed, and to get away from the dorocha, is through what looks like the the caves of Andor (all three things first seen in Merlin s2 “Lancelot and Guinevere”). Gwaine complains a bit, until he is saved by Percival from a dorocha and they rush into the caves. Arthur explains to the knights that the wildren are completely blind that they have covered themselves in gaia berries to mask their scent from the beasts. When Gwaine hears that there is no chance that they will not run into wildren in the caves, he strategically places himself behind Arthur. Sure enough, they encounter some wildren and the knights hide. Unfortunately, one seems intent on sniffing Gwaine, who kills it with his sword. He looks to Arthur and the other knights for approval, only to be told by Arthur that he is a fool; while the one at his feet is dead -Wildren hunt in packs. The knights, hearing the cry of more angry wildren, flee.

Back in Camelot, distressed villagers get locked out of Camelot as Gwen informs Gaius that Agravaine has decreed that the city gates be closed at night fall. Gaius and Gwen confront Agravaine, who is in a council meeting, and he informs them that he did it to preserve Camelot’s supplies. Gwen speaks up, asking for a moment of the council’s time. Agravaine, with an amused look on his face, allows Gwen the floor. She speaks of how Arthur had taught her the importance of Camelot’s people and that he would never allow for this to happen. Agravaine attempts to placate her, but is told by Gwen that he is wrong. That those people behind the gates are the farmers and land owners - the people who provide Camelot with the produce that they eat, and that they bring with them far more than they take. She states that Arthur had left on his journey three days ago, and that it would take another three for him to reach his intended goal - unless Agravaine believed that Arthur would fail. Agravaine states that he did not believe that, and Geoffrey of Monmouth speaks up to agree with Gwen. Agravaine agrees for the gates to be reopened.

Lancelot wakes near the stream, to find Merlin no longer next to him. He calls out for Merlin, only to be shushed by Merlin, who is spearing fish. They tossle and joke for a bit, until Merlin makes his way to the horses to go and rejoin Arthur and the knights. Lancelot tries to tell Merlin that they are going back to Camelot, to which Merlin answers “You might be. Say hi to Gaius for me.” Lancelot states that Arthur is right about him, that Merlin never does what he is told, and Merlin agrees, doggedly making his way to the horses. With the knights, Leon attempts to get Arthur to rest, using the excuse that even Gwaine has gone quiet. Arthur argues back that that is a reason to keep going. As this is going on , Agravaine rides to Morgana , to inform her that the plan is going to schedule, and that even if Arthur makes it to the Isle of the Blessed it would be too late. Although the news that Agravaine brings appears to be in Morgana’s favour, she picks up on Agravaine’s unrest. They talk about Gwen, Morgana claiming that she is dangerous, and sharing with Agravaine the dream she had about Gwen seated on the queen’s throne of Camelot. Agravaine and Morgana plot Gwen’s death.

Back in Camelot, Gwen tends to a slightly more lucid Uther, who is asking for Arthur. Gwen tells him that he is on a hunting trip , and shall return soon. Agravaine is waiting for Gwen - he apologises for the way he acted, and she does the same. He asks her if she will join him for dinner, so he can seek her council over what the people of Camelot want. Gwen, surprised but flattered, agrees. Gaius enters at the tail end of their conversation, and after Agravaine leaves and Gwen tells him of Agravaine’s proposal, looks troubled.

Merlin and Lancelot try to make their way back to Arthur and the knights, and stop at a home where the dorroka have been, if the frozen body is any indication. Merlin lights a fire using his magic as they settle for the night, sadly telling Lancelot that he’s ‘not completely useless’.


Gaius looked troubled about Agravaine’s interest in Gwen with good reason, as the next thing we see is Morgana sneaking into Camelot, killing a guard on her way.  Agravaine and Gwen speak about whether the people feel safe, and Agravaine creepily stands behind Gwen. Then lets her go, ordering his knights to walk her to her place “safely”. Of course, this is a lie, because Morgana watches on and knocks the guards and Gwen down to the ground with magic.

The knights rest while Arthur surveys the area. Elyan comes up to talk to him about what to expect when they reach the Isle of the blessed, but Arthur does not want to talk about it. Elyan gently reminds Arthur that he and the other knights would gladly lay down their lives for him, and that they are a unit, and he is not alone. He encourages Arthur to get some rest while he takes of watching. Arthur gratefully thanks him, only for the knights to hear the screech of a dorocha.

Gaius checks on Uther back in Camelot ; to find Gwen missing. He searches the grounds - only to find Gwen, passed out, with a head wound, about to be attacked by a dorocha, that Gaius easily dissuades with the torch he is carrying.

Lancelot and Merlin discuss the quest, Merlin telling Lancelot that he does not have to journey with him. Lancelot states that Merlin would not understand; that it does not make sense to him either. They speak of Gwen, and his promise to keep Arthur safe (something that Merlin assures Lancelot that he will do). Lancelot states that he will not come between Lancelot and Arthur, as Gwen loves Arthur, who is the better man.

Gwen wakes from her head wound, and Gaius informs her that he suspects foul play in regards to her injury - and that outright murdering her would be suspicious - so she was left for the dorocha.

Speaking of the dorocha - Merlin and Lancelot are attacked by a bunch of them in their hideout. Merlin makes the fire flare to destroy the first one - and then as he and Lancelot run through the forest, Merlin chants the call to kilgarrah, who appears and flames the remaining dorocha. Once the dorocha have been destroyed, Merlin gratefully bows to Kilgarrah. Lancelot is wary of Kilgarrah, but the Great Dragon knows of Lancelot - prophesying of "the bravest and most noble of them all" . Merlin informs the dragon of his plan to sacrifice himself to seal the rift to the spirit world, which seems to sadden the flying beast. Dragon says that rift must be sealed, but Calleach will demand a blood sacrifice. "It will be an empty world without you, young warlock," Kilgarrah states, actually sounding sad.

The following morning, Lancelot questions Merlin's decision, unsure if he would ever be willing to give up his own life. "You have to have a reason," Merlin tells him. "Something you care about. Something that's more important than anything."

Lancelot and Merlin notice that they are not the first to reach the path, and Merlin asks if they will be able to make it by night fall. Lancelot answers there is only one way to find out, and they begin to ride. In the castle, Gwaine takes off his boots and socks, much to the disgust of Elyan and Leon who quickly move to the other side of the fire to sit next to Percival and Arthur, Gwaine complains about being the butt of their jokes and tells them to pick on Percival - to which Elyan and Leon answer that at least Percival bathes, and doesn’t set his socks on fire (yep, Gwaine’s sock is ,in fact, on fire). Arthur hears an noise, so the knights get ready to do battle. They see Lancelot, and Arthur, looking distressed, asks after Merlin. Lancelot answers “Bad news. He’s still alive” as Merlin appears behind him. Arthur looks happy and relieved as Merlin is engulfed in a hug from Elyan, Percival and Leon, and then a separate one from Gwaine. As the knights welcome Lancelot back and hug him, Arthur and Merlin awkwardly greet each other, until Arthur pulls Merlin into a one armed hug. Later that night, Merlin and Arthur quietly talk as they watch the knights sleep. Merlin tells Arthur not to sacrifice his life, insisting that he will take his place. "What is the life of a servant compared to that of a prince?" he reasons, but Arthur won't hear of it. Instead, he makes Merlin promise to look after Gwen when he's gone.

The knights finally reach the Isle of the Blessed, but are attacked by wyverns. Merlin fends one off with his dragon lord powers, but more descend on them. Leon, Elyan, and Percival remain remain behind to fend the creatures off, Merlin, Arthur, Gwaine and Lancelot continue to meet  the Calleach.

They try to reason with the Callieach, who knocks out Gwaine when he tries to attack her. Arthur announces that he's prepared to give up his life and approaches the rift, but Merlin casts a spell, knocking the prince to the floor.

With Arthur unconscious. Merlin steps forward. The Calleach seems pleased that Merlin is willing to challenge her, and Merlin once again reiterates  that it is his his destiny to give up his life for Arthur, but the hag tells him, "Your time among men is not yet over Emrys, even if you want it to be." She turns towards the rift, as does Merlin. While he was distracted, Lancelot  has walked, with a peaceful smile on his face, into the rift. Merlin cries out, - Lancelot is gone and the rift is sealed.

Returning to Camelot, a sombre Arthur pays tribute to Lancelot, swearing that he will never be forgotten. As his cloak and sword burn, Arthur declares, "He was the most noble knight I'll ever know." Camelot is in mourning and Gwen in particular is devastated by Lancelot's death, telling Arthur of the promise she made him agree to. Arthur looks shocked and squeezes the sobbing Gwen’s shoulder as he walks away

Morgana is furious at being defeated. she's certain that Emrys is to blame for her misfortune. She furiously tells Agravaine (who is trying to placate her) that he must find out the identity of Emrys.

Agravaine pays Gaius a visit, unaware Merlin is listening from this room. Agravaine enquires about Emrys, but Gaius claims that he's never heard of him. As Agravaine leaves and Merlin emerges, Gaius grimly notes, that Morgana is the only one who could have heard that name from the Calleach - and that Agravaine is probably not as noble as he seems. Gaius warns Merlin that they must be wary of Agravaine - Morgana can never discover the true identity of Emrys.


Once again - I was completely blown away by this episode. I have to admit - I’m not a “fangirl for life” type person. I get bored or put off by many things in tv shows, either by over done story lines, boring subplots, or out of character moments with no plot or character development very, very easily. I’ve dropped shows I wish I hadn’t. And yet - with Merlin, even after four years ; same story, same lead cast, same setting - I’m more in love with this show than ever. The character development in this was great - Arthur being man enough to apologise  to Merlin and care about his well being (and yet still make the decision that Lancelot should go off with Merlin, even though it was a hard one). The knights being so loyal to Arthur and being overjoyed when Lancelot and Merlin made it back to them . I loved Merlin’s continuing dedication to Arthur and I love that Merlin isn’t the comic relief (well, at least in these two episodes - and at the expense of Gwaine - but Eion Macken pulls it off beautifully). My beautiful, outspoken Gwen of season 1 seems to be back too. I love this evil Morgana, who really is a lot more toned down than the Morgana of Season 3. I loved the throw backs to earlier seasons. I loved the vilia (even though I’m not quite sure what slavic water spirits are doing in the region of the valley of the fallen kings, but, hey) and the proof once again that not all magic is evil. Lancelot was noble, but not over the top. I loved his confusion on where he fit in to this story. Merlin and Arthur resting near each other and chatting about who will be the sacrifice was BEAUTIFUL. I love, love love love , how far those two characters have come. It’s what I always wanted to see.

I have to put a little side note in here - earlier this year,a close friend of mine and I were lucky enough to be in Pierrefonds and witnessed the shooting of the funeral scene seen in this episode. Bradley James - before they actually started filming - called out “We’ll miss you, Gaius” to a shocked crowd of fans (yes, I gasped and grabbed my friends’ arm). One thing was off though - the fact there was a sword in the fire. My friend and I discussed the scene on the trip back to Paris, and for days on end after - we concluded that if it was not Gaius - then it had to be Uther - due to the sword. So, well played, Mr James - you completely got us.

I loved these two eps because they had an amazing action /adventure feel, wrapped in pure fantasy and major hint of a legend that I have always loved.

What did you thing of the darkest hour parts one and two? We’d love to hear from you!
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 09:32:09 AM »

Wow. One heck of an episode. I laughed, I cried, and laughed some more. It seems that the writers heard my plea about more Gwaine... YAY!!!! Feelin' the Love

I really think that somehow, Lancelot will come back. I mean, we've known of him for nearly four years! Beginning in the fifth Merlin episode, when he saved Merlin's life, and beat Arthur in a one-on-one... Ah... What my parents think (yes, I even got my parents hooked. That's how good it is!) is that the Callieach doesn't require actual sacrifice, you just have to be willing to die, and that there's no better way to show that you're willing to die than to actually do so. What we thought, is since she's the gatekeeper of the Spirit World, she'll be able to bring Lancelot back. She'll probably wait till the season finale or something to make it more epic...

I thought the flashbacks were very good, and the continuity was awesome! The Valley of the Fallen Kings is a flashback too, I believe. I think the 5th episode of season 3??? With the crystal caves and all. Oh, man.

I really liked how Merlin's relationships with the other knights are forming, how they're treating him more and more like an equal, especially Arthur. I love how funny Gwaine is being too. Can you tell I really like Gwaine??? iloveyousign (I also like emotes!!!)

I loved how un-smirking Morgana was. She seemed so much more evil (to me) when she had just a firm line for a mouth, and a cold glint in her eye. But that's just me.

I also think that Agravaine has a slight crush on Gwen. I just have this gut feeling, by the way he acts and stuff. I don't know. I mean, trying to kill her is bad and all, but it almost seemed that he was sorry. What do you think?

The episodes seem to have gotten a lot better lately, and I search the internet frantically every single week to find the new episodes! (I'm from America, and so I really need to search deep! I'm a sucker for a good British show. Doctor Who, Torchwood, Merlin... I actually like more British shows than American... Wow. By the way, if you know any good sites to watch Merlin free, pleasepleaseplease tell me!!!!)

The next episode looks really good too! I can't wait until  next week!!!

Till next week, I LOVE MERLIN!!!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 03:34:31 PM »

     I actually didn't like this episode. I kind of got tired of Merlin just being helpless most of the time and hiding his abilities. He is supposed to be this powerful mage that everyone talks about, but he can't even light a fire on a stick to burn allnight to protect him and Lancelot and when they do get attacked, he doesn't even try to relight the fire and summons the dragon instead. Then, all the dragon does is cough fire once and says goodbye... um, why didn't Merlin summon the dragon in the first place to protect the Camelot and all the innocent people while they go to the island? No one would know he had done it...  And what a mystery would it be for all the people, that this dragon is helping them?
   
     It is also weird that only Lancelot and Merlin are prepared to die for the good of the people of the Camelot and all other knights just stand there without any emotions over their future king's sacrifice... And in my opinion the Lancelot was killed by the plot to avoid the ambiguity of a love triangle. Easy peasy - no awkward emotional scenes to write, just let  Lancelot (who is the only really known knight in the series) to sacrifice himself.

      I think the veil tear was a missed opportunity for Merlin to show his powers to Arthur. Say, if the only way to seal it was through magic, and since Merlin is one of the best, he alone would posses the power to close the veil. Thus bringing a dilemma to Arthur  - whether to let the use of magic or let the world be destroyed.. um??? Magic! And over the series we could watch Merlin's powers and status increase, his relationship with Arthur progress into partnership and at the end of the series a great battle with Morgana. Now that is what I would call progress in the story and character development. Wouldn't that be amazing?

 For all those who are looking forward to continuing the story in season five - there would be endless amount of other villains, like the small druid boy... But everything has an end, and I think it is better to develop and finish rather that repeat the same... And that is how I feel after watching the second episode.

 After the two episodes nothing moved up and it seems we are back to square 1. What a disappointment...
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 03:46:52 PM »

P.S. Seems the only spell available to hurt and stop other people is power wind force or something. It was so overused in just 2 episodes:
We get the effect in the first scene (knights knocked off) fair enough,
more knights knocked off by Morgana...
Gwen knocked off (masterplan, hey?)...
Then the veil keeper also uses the same trick (surely their powers differ??)
and then Merlin also uses the same invisible airforce trick...

Surely there are other types of magic to have stopping powers?
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 01:44:10 AM »

Hi Angel_of_darkness and captainMilly - thank you both for your thoughts on this week's Merlin.

CaptainMilly: Interesting take on the ep. I didn't think it was "back to the beginning" at all. I found The curse of Cornelius Sigan far more back to the beginning than these two episodes. As to Merlin's 'weakness' - it was brought on by facing head on a monster that he could not fight with his magic. I think that's the bravest Merlin has been. It was physical weakness, brought on by the vessel that holds his magic - not a weakness on MERLIN per se. The knights are new - and really still getting a feel of who they are under the command of Arthur -while Arthur, Merlin and Lancelot have had four years to establish themselves. I'll agree with the pushing people over form of magic is kind of lazy - but it's also the quickest way to stop your opponent. I also think the series is moving away from Magic being the focus - it's more Merlin's journey - and while Magic is a part of that, it's not the only part. And Morgana and Gwen - I think the 'plan' was supposed to be sinister because she was just ready to leave Gwen to die. Can I ask what Merlin episodes are your favourite? Thanks for your thoughts on this ep - they gave me a lot more to think on! :-)

Angel_of_Darkness: Yep - much more Gwaine. I'm not sure on how I feel about Gwaine as the comic relief - but as I said - Eoin Macken does manage to pull it off. You're right - the valley of the fallen kings was a shout out to a previous ep :-) good catch! And I agree that there seems to be something going on with regards to Agravaine and Gwen. Thank you for your thoughts as well!

Oh, and if you want to know about Lancelot's fate - I suggest you both see if you can watch the extended trailer of this season! :-)

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 06:59:04 AM »

captainMilly, Hello! I have some answers (hopefully) to your questions. Some have been solved by Karolina_Avalon, but here is my take:

First things first. (But not necessarily in that order...) I actually really liked how helpless Merlin was. We've always seen him powerful and awesome, defeating opponent after opponent. Now, without his magic, Merlin has to rely on Arthur and the knights for protection. It would be so much easier just to leave, but, as Karolina_Avalon rightly says, Merlin shows true courage by sticking with Arthur. For whatever reason, Merlin's magic disappears around the Dorocha, so he can't restart the fire, literally, if his life depended on it. The dragon has an unending source of fire, so, problem solved!

Second, the last time that Camelot saw Kilgarrah, he tried to destroy them, and when Arthur tried to kill him one-on-one, the dragon knocked him out. Merlin told the dragon to leave, and since he's a dragonlord, the dragon had to leave. Merlin covered up by saying Arthur dealt the dragon a mortal would. Wouldn't it be a little bit suspicious if one dude said that the dragon was dead, and then 2 years later, "Oh, he won't hurt you! He's here to help!" That's just me!

Third, not necessarily! If someone was going to die for something you both like, truthfully what would you do? Quite frankly, I'm afraid of death. I'd be all, "Sayonara!" I think that they wanted to show Arthur as chivalrous (as always!), Merlin as noble (as opposed to a clot pole!!! bigGrin), and Lancelot as brave, (as opposed to noble. We've seen him noble so many times, I was glad to see him as brave.)

Fourth, the love triangle doesn't really exist much past the middle of season 2. Gwen remains loyal to Arthur, while Lancelot realizes this, and steps down.

Fifth (wow, you found a lot to critique on! Cheesygrin) I don't really think so. Merlin and Arthur are already getting very close, without Arthur knowing about Merlin's magic, so there is a place for the story to go, instead of being done in four seasons!We don't really know how Mordred fits into all of this, so I really hope that they continue!

All good things do come to an end, but it doesn't need to be so darn quick! There's a T.V. show called Doctor Who that's been running for 50 years! (Well, technically about 25. They took about a 25 year break, but now they're back, and coming out with a new season!
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 07:02:40 AM »

Angel_of_Darkness:  I'm not sure on how I feel about Gwaine as the comic relief - but as I said - Eoin Macken does manage to pull it off.

I think that it suits Gwaine very well, personally. He seems like the kind of guy things happen to, and that's what the knights tease him about (like setting his socks on fire! Oh Gwaine...)
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 01:04:38 PM »

@ Angel_of_darkness - I think it does suit Gwaine, in the sense of speaking to his recklessness and leaping in before thinking - I just wouldn't like to see him become the running joke. But, for the moment I like it, because it isn't just a case of "oh, look, Gwaine fell over ahahahahaha" ( hence why I said I wasn't sure about it - it definitely works for these two episodes - I want to see what they do with him next :-) )
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 04:32:58 PM »

Karolina_Avalon,
I guess when you put it that way! But, I do think Gwaine should be the running joke. Not in the sense of, oh Gwaine fell over,  iamlaughing hahaha, but in the sense of, as you said, that he leaps before he looks, and that's what gets him into trouble. He has the persona of a guy that things just happen to, and I really hope that the writers play with that!
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 01:36:28 AM »

I finally got around to watching this episode through and can comment on this.

Like I've said in our emails, I really expected this sort of thing, not as early as season 2 (that would have been too OOC) but I thought season 3 at least, but better late than never.

Together both episodes are mature, much more mature in writing and characterization and I pray that means we will be spared fart jokes for the rest of the season. I absolutely adore Arthur and Merlin's characterization and that Arthur especially is so brilliantly noble and kingly and his relationship with Merlin has got to the stage where Merlin is an unofficial advisor that Arthur trusts, and their interaction is solidly BFFs more than ever when I saw how Arthur reacted to Merlin getting hurt and his return.

Merlin, like above, is his best with Arthur, full stop. I am though tired of him being sidelined to, as I see it, highlight that Morgana has all this power to wreak havoc on the city and establishes what she wants and that she has a mole, Agravaine. I appreciate the need to establish her as the big bad, but surely there's got to be a way of doing that without sidelining Merlin and showing her as more powerful. It's less darkest -before-the-dawn and more me being bored silly when we know who Merlin is going to be. It's like, how about focusing on him getting more power and trying to control it when it goes haywire in a fight against Morgana? The whole Merlin -would-die-for-Arthur has been done too.

The knights were completely lovely. I love that in what small screen time they do have, the writers have established their personalities very well. While Lancelot's slightly more bearable, his "noblest of us all" etc drives me barmy and makes me bored all at once. I was THIS close to just fastforwarding his parts to spare myself the righteousness. Only because his scenes were with Merlin, did I restrain myself.

I liked Gwen speaking her mind to Agaravaine and that it showed off how much Arthur is on her mind and how well she knows him. I can see her being king and holding down the court, so to speak, should Arthur go off questing. And I thought if anything, Agravaine might have an interest in Morgana in that last scene. While Katie M. is rocking a strong, evol Morgana without the smirking (thank goodness) I would be less irritated with her if Merlin, as I see it, wasn't so blatantly sidelined to emphasise her power. The writers still have problem with balance in some cases for me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 04:13:22 AM »

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY YOU WATCHED IT! (Or finished it, at least) It's funny, I didn't see these episodes show casing Morgana as more powerful than Merlin at all. What made you think that?
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 04:34:35 AM »

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY YOU WATCHED IT! (Or finished it, at least) It's funny, I didn't see these episodes show casing Morgana as more powerful than Merlin at all. What made you think that?

I knoooow! Finally, lol!

Because she was the one that was doing the most magic in these two episodes, or possibly the most powerful magic. These could have played out very differently if Merlin actively went after her, armed with his own magic at Arthur's side - the knights were kept busy with the wyvern anyway and weren't able to see his magic, Arthur got knocked out as usual. Besides, it would have added another layer of oomph had Morgana begun to suspect that Merlin was Emrys and we actively had her testing him/trying to kill him in order to test the magnitude of his power. For example. In my head. It all makes sense there, lol  blushing2 In the end though, I think highlighting the strenght of Arthur/Merlin, the bond between the knights and individual characters could have been reached had Merlin been as strong. I don't think the strength of his magic would have prevented him from offering himself as a sacrifice in Arthur's place if he had no choice at any rate and we'd still get the amazzzzzing episode that we had.

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 04:40:40 AM »

mmm. I see your point - but I don't think magic was supposed to really be the focus point of this ep (although I will admit that I cheered when the Villia called Merlin "Merlin". I, personally was getting sick of the druids knowing who Morgana was but looking at Merlin with blank faces.) I do want them to focus on Merlin being powerful ... but we'll see how the rest of the season goes!
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 06:59:17 AM »

I have to disagree with you both. I'm glad that magic wasn't a big factor in this show. I've done some calculations (yeah... MATH GEEK!), and Merlin saves the day using magic about 77% of the time. I was frankly getting a little annoyed. (Arthur: This guy is unstoppable!... Merlin: I'll just use magic! No one will know!... Arthur: Oh, look! I stopped him!) The series needs to focus on Merlin, not just his magic aspect, though I do realize that his magic is a big part, I also want to know more about him, not just the extent of his magic. That's just me.

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 03:47:31 PM »

YEP , EPISODE 3 TODAY!  smileywave  woot  clappingguy It may go up a little later, but I'll get my review up ASAP.

My view is smack bang in the middle of your and Verushka's , it seems. I really want to see Merlin become the warlock/wizard/ powerful magician he is meant to be (unless you prescribe to TH White's Merlin, of course) - but I also feel cheated, or get tired of the whole *Merlin does magic* Arthur: Oh, look how awesome I am ! thing as well. I'm happy just to see Merlin develop as a character - in whatever form that is. I want him to be recognised as important. Whether that is to Arthur (and by default, Camelot) or in the magic world - I'm willing to wait and see how that pans out.

I think - and I don't want to speak for her - Verushka's main concern is Morgana v Merlin.
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 09:19:05 PM »

Good point. I get her point (or is it??? :) ). I do think that Merlin's is greatly underappreciated, and I would like to see it grow a little, but right now I'm content to watch Merlin and Arthur's interactions. Episode 3!
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 11:55:15 PM »

Writing the review of the wicked day now :-) Should go up in a few hours. This was a powerful episode, and I'm trying to coherently describe my feelings on it :-)
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2011, 08:16:03 AM »

And of course my computer's whacked up and I can't watch the new episode. my parents are calling Comcast, but it'll be a while. I wish there were not game-changing things going on. I hate not knowing! (But I hate knowing ahead of time even more. Does that make sense? Untill I can watch it, I'll have to content with knowing that it won't be a disappointment. That would stink to high heavens if I hated it... Go Merlin! Hope to see you soon!
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2011, 04:40:19 PM »

mmm. I see your point - but I don't think magic was supposed to really be the focus point of this ep (although I will admit that I cheered when the Villia called Merlin "Merlin". I, personally was getting sick of the druids knowing who Morgana was but looking at Merlin with blank faces.) I do want them to focus on Merlin being powerful ... but we'll see how the rest of the season goes!

Damn, I forgot to answer this *sighs* Not a focus on him being powerful per say, but a focus on his magic and his mastery of it growing. Remember the book? Where he was reading from it every so often? Things like that - like he's learning again from Gaius or the library etc.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2011, 04:44:03 PM »

It is Morgana v Merlin, yes. I've slowly begun to get a little miffed at how everything that made Merlin unique suddenly is getting yanked from him, especially, yes the gold eyes bit. I'm shallow; Merlin looks the best with gold eyes Winking
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM »

I think Merlin is supposed be beyond needing the book.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2011, 10:21:39 PM »

I think Merlin is supposed be beyond needing the book.

To my mind, if Merlin is beyond learning what he is capable of magic-wise, why is Morgana suddenly such a big magical threat to Merlin if he knows everything he is supposed to about his powers? I don't want him to suddenly do something big, just because he's Merlin and he can when the plot point calls for it. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2011, 11:31:13 PM »

I don'tthink the threat is Morgana's magic or that she's more powerful- just rather is is free to use hers - while Merlin isn't free to use his.
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